New firmware Firmware_V4.83.011_241205 K Series NVR

[JB1970]

Agreed, we're seeing a lot of changes announced and new firmwares but more problems that are not being resolved. I'll try Dahua just to see if the experience is similar.

I've been thinking of Dahuas since the begininng, but it's the cost....The barrier is the cost

For me the cost seems to be similar. It's worth looking at empiretech01.com for the OE models which will happily take original Dahua firmware.

 

[alfaclvi]

@Tomasz
Hi. What is the configuration about those areas with animals and the other with the cars. Many things could be the cause. The target size min/max, the loitering time of the target in the area(Thresholds) the Alarm Validity ....

 

[Tomasz]

@Tomasz
Hi. What is the configuration about those areas with animals and the other with the cars. Many things could be the cause. The target size min/max, the loitering time of the target in the area(Thresholds) the Alarm Validity ....

Animals detection, everythink is ok. Menu camera, not nvr. Camera with cars similar settings. Everything seems to be set up correctly, sometimes movement is detected, sometimes it is not. Hikconnect sees much less of this movement

 

[alfaclvi]

Animals detection, everythink is ok. Menu camera, not nvr. Camera with cars similar settings. Everything seems to be set up correctly, sometimes movement is detected, sometimes it is not. Hikconnect sees much less of this movement

As I can see the Human check box is selected so that's why the deer was not recorded as Event. This is also possible that the squirel was by mistake recognized as Human but also seems out of the region. Can't think something about that except if this area is selected by another kind of Smart Event. Region Entrance/Exit or Line Crossing

 

[Tomasz]

As I can see the Human check box is selected so that's why the deer was not recorded as Event. This is also possible that the squirel was by mistake recognized as Human but also seems out of the region. Can't think something about that except if this area is selected by another kind of Smart Event. Region Entrance/Exit or Line Crossing

No no no, it's not like that. A person is detected on the timeline in green and gets a notification on the phone. It's about movement shown on the timeline in red, sometimes the animal is recorded, sometimes not. The same with the garage camera. All the cars drive on the road where the timeline records movement in red, but it doesn't get a notification because the cars don't drive in the detection area. Only these cars drive there all day long at similar speeds and the camera sometimes shows them on the timeline in red, other times it doesn't.

 

[alfaclvi]

Everything that moves is Detected. Either as Motion if set so or Smart Event if set so. Everything should be "recorded" - marked, if Dual VCA is enabled in camera settings and Record VCA Data is enabled on NVR settings. All above "records" - markers, should be found if you use the By Rule smart search on your NVR Playback timeline, either Normal or Event.
Now from all above records, only those that meet the requirements according to your camera/NVR configuration, will give Notifications/Alarms and should be recorded as individual files that can also be found by using the Search tab on your NVR and should also be seen as markers on timeline. Can you understand as what is the animal recorded? If this is as "Other" and Human is checked for e.g. Intrusion, then the animal is marked as Other by something else. Possibly Line crossing. This should not be recorded as Event, if Human is selected everywhere. You should see that as marker only on NVR By Rules Playback drawing grid boxes, polygons or Lines

 

[Tomasz]

Everything that moves is Detected. Either as Motion if set so or Smart Event if set so. Everything should be "recorded" - marked, if Dual VCA is enabled in camera settings and Record VCA Data is enabled on NVR settings. All above "records" - markers, should be found if you use the By Rule smart search on your NVR Playback timeline, either Normal or Event.
Now from all above records, only those that meet the requirements according to your camera/NVR configuration, will give Notifications/Alarms and should be recorded as individual files that can also be found by using the Search tab on your NVR and should also be seen as markers on timeline. Can you understand as what is the animal recorded? If this is as "Other" and Human is checked for e.g. Intrusion, then the animal is marked as Other by something else. Possibly Line crossing. This should not be recorded as Event, if Human is selected everywhere. You should see that as marker only on NVR By Rules Playback drawing grid boxes, polygons or Lines

I understand you. That's what happened, you don't understand me. This animal didn't trigger an alarm, the yellow frame is the NVR grid. The animal didn't trigger the intrusion detection field. The thing is, the deer wasn't marked on the timeline in any way, while the squirrel was.

 

[Tomasz]

Everything that moves is Detected. Either as Motion if set so or Smart Event if set so. Everything should be "recorded" - marked, if Dual VCA is enabled in camera settings and Record VCA Data is enabled on NVR settings. All above "records" - markers, should be found if you use the By Rule smart search on your NVR Playback timeline, either Normal or Event.
Now from all above records, only those that meet the requirements according to your camera/NVR configuration, will give Notifications/Alarms and should be recorded as individual files that can also be found by using the Search tab on your NVR and should also be seen as markers on timeline. Can you understand as what is the animal recorded? If this is as "Other" and Human is checked for e.g. Intrusion, then the animal is marked as Other by something else. Possibly Line crossing. This should not be recorded as Event, if Human is selected everywhere. You should see that as marker only on NVR By Rules Playback drawing grid boxes, polygons or Lines

Look please.
1 photo Camera sees moving object other than person/car, NVR screen playback. Deer not recorded on timeline.

2 photo, camera sees moving object other than person/car, records movement other than person/car on timeline.

 

[alfaclvi]

Ok sorry, understood the issue. Sometimes, as you may have already seen, the green detection rectangle, increase and decrease size according to target movement. Possibly the squirrel moved fast when this was closer to the region, the rectangle touched or passed more than 35% inside your region and same time this was by camera library mistake, recognized as Human. I suppose Tenderness is the equivalent for Sensitivity. Can't think of something else. Many times daily, cats are recognized as Humans from my ColorVU G5s. What is your camera model? Have not seen these descriptions on settings before

 

[alfaclvi]

What could this message, I mentioned above, could mean in Normal Playback after performing a Smart Search, by drawing the rule area and Human or Vehicle is selected:
"All results have been returned. The camera does not support searching videos that contain human or vehicle"

or in iVMS4200

"Searching failed. Filtering searching results that contain human or vehicle is not supported for the camera.(Error code:ISAPI[0X600090EF].)

Without performing Smart Search(lamp) with Human and Vehicle selected, then Human or Vehicle are visible in timeline in both Normal and Event Playback..
The cameras, as I can see, or possibly believe, are supporting Human and Vehicle searching. They are DS-2CD2047G2HLIU and DS-2CD2047G2L.
Except if they mean they are not iDS or it is the V5.7.15 that gives this error?

 

[alfaclvi]

This is the release notes for firmware V4.83.010 build24118 which is prior to V4.83.011 but was never uploaded on NXI-K web page.
I suppose V4.83.011 includes every fix, improvement and optimization of V4.83.010

https://assets.hikvision.com/prd/public/all/files/202411/releasenote%5CV4.83.010_build241118_ReleaseNotes.pdf

What seemed a bit strange is that a specific HDD disk "does not support intelligent retrieval information storage, consistent with
SMR disk"
This could also mean, that other disks too, for example SSDs, could have similar issue with intelligent or/and VCA info retrieval.
There is nothing reported about G5's firmware v5.7.18 compatibility

 

[Tomasz]

Ok sorry, understood the issue. Sometimes, as you may have already seen, the green detection rectangle, increase and decrease size according to target movement. Possibly the squirrel moved fast when this was closer to the region, the rectangle touched or passed more than 35% inside your region and same time this was by camera library mistake, recognized as Human. I suppose Tenderness is the equivalent for Sensitivity. Can't think of something else. Many times daily, cats are recognized as Humans from my ColorVU G5s. What is your camera model? Have not seen these descriptions on settings before

You are writing incorrectly. If in your opinion the squirrel was detected as a human, why didn't it trigger the alarm? How then, according to you, would a fox, dog or cat be recorded as you wrote earlier? According to what you write, in order to be recorded on the timeline it would have to be defined as a human. Because that's what you write.

The snowfall event, fox, cat, bird, should be defined and recorded on the blue bar with a red line, which does not always happen, so this software is not perfect.

 

[Tomasz]

It seems that after all this time and old/new software VCA is working fine. I just don't know why VCA data is not shown in such large quantity on Hikconnect player timeline.

 

[Tomasz]

What could this message, I mentioned above, could mean in Normal Playback after performing a Smart Search, by drawing the rule area and Human or Vehicle is selected:
"All results have been returned. The camera does not support searching videos that contain human or vehicle"

or in iVMS4200

"Searching failed. Filtering searching results that contain human or vehicle is not supported for the camera.(Error code:ISAPI[0X600090EF].)

Without performing Smart Search(lamp) with Human and Vehicle selected, then Human or Vehicle are visible in timeline in both Normal and Event Playback..
The cameras, as I can see, or possibly believe, are supporting Human and Vehicle searching. They are DS-2CD2047G2HLIU and DS-2CD2047G2L.
Except if they mean they are not iDS or it is the V5.7.15 that gives this error?

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The camera does not support searching videos that contain human or vehicle. Please uncheck human/vehicle and try again. I have this message. 2347g2-l(c) and 2347g2h-lisu/sl